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Same, though the battery upgrade alone will be around $260 because of the new bottom cover, at that might just throw in the speaker upgrade as well for $19. Not sure if I even want a haptic touchpad at all.

Haptic trackpads are the secret sauce that make MacBooks so pleasant to use. You probably want one.

It's a matter of preferences. Actually I like trackpads that don't mind and have physical buttons. The separation between the surface that moves the pointer on screen and the surfaces that generate the clicks means that there are no misclicks and no involuntary pointer movements while clicking.

The MacBook software is so good that I’ve never had issues with misclicks or movement despite your palms sitting on it while typing.

Long ago I installed Linux on a MacBook and found it unusable because of clicks and movement while typing. It’s probably improved these days though.


It is so incredibly "weird" to press on a MacBook (non Neo) trackpad when it is off, it's like touching a dead thing.

I had palm rejection work perfectly in my 2015 laptop; for my 2022 laptop, I had to switch to Fedora for the latest software.

Spoken like someone who has never used a haptic trackpad.

Haptic schmaptic, I just want my Framework's enormous trackpad to respect deadzones and stop detecting my palms. I had to entirely disable tap-to-click, because nothing else would work.

I might have to try their preinstalled Ubuntu images or something and see if there's some secret sauce in the input configs.


How about this https://community.frame.work/t/palm-rejection/40069/23?page=...

> For Linux libinput “Disable While Typing” (DWT) problems, this page claims libinput will only use the DWT setting if the keyboard and touchpad are either both identified as internal devices, or are both identified as the same device.

sudo nano /etc/libinput/local-overrides.quirks

[Framework Touchpad Fix] MatchName=* MatchUdevType=touchpad AttrKeyboardIntegration=internal


There is no accounting for taste. For instance, I still prefer discrete buttons over tap-clicks or multi-finger-taps, but I would accept the mild annoyance of tap clicks over the pressing down the pad itself.

Is the software that makes them so pleasant to use available on Linux?

Not a huge fan of the "force touch" trackpads on newer macs, the old man yells at the clouds. In all seriousness though I have used a pre force touch MacBook not too long ago and I prefer that experience a lot over the new one I have from work. Though the larger size of these trackpads is something I really like and where neither the older MacBook nor the the current non-pro Framework 13 come close.

Me, neither! I just had someone suggest to me yesterday that I was "holding it wrong" for preferring a real click mechanism on my trackpads.

So you if you want the newer bottom you have to upgrade the battery is what you're saying ?

More like the reverse: if you want the new battery you need a new bottom.

The new battery is physically larger, so the old bottom cannot accommodate it.

Oh right but if I want to keep everything but the chassis I can, correct ?

This page has more details, https://frame.work/laptop13pro?tab=upgrade-to-pro. You can keep everything, but they are selling some of the new parts as a kit.

Invite only isn't that unusual for personal/friend&family servers. The author also set that in their prosody config. The snikket client works with many different XMPP servers, why wouldn't it? As you mentioned it's based on Conversations and for iOS on Siskin.


They're slightly larger than a iPhone 16. Both are significantly larger than the mini iPhones. https://phonesized.com/compare/#2535,2552,1863


> I didn't quite have the option of falling into some kind of depression and just doing nothing

Don't know if this was your intention but this comes across as if having a depression was a choice, which it rarely is with any kind of illness.


It's difficult to say what is a choice and what isn't. Is anything my choice? Perhaps the world is deterministic, so nothing is anyone's choice. But also, I have seen people who seemingly choose to wallow in their grief.

Also what is depression? I'm very sad that my partner died. I miss her. Some people have a chemical imbalance in their body. These are entirely different things. Perhaps I shouldn't have used that word, which has so many different meanings as to lose meaning altogether.

When you have a kid and don't want to get out of bed the whole day, eventually the kid is hungry enough to start screaming, and it will keep screaming until you get out of bed and feed it. It really is in everyone's mutual interest, depression or not. It's harder to stay depressed when you have to do things. It's easier to stay depressed when you can lie in bed the whole day.


Thanks for restating, I get where you're coming from. Also your reply to another comment made me realize this is also a language mixup on my side. I didn't realize there is a depression (mood) in English. My native language has the major depressive disorder as depression, not sure if there is a term for the mood. Sorry for not checking this assumption before but I guess my perception of suggesting 'have you tried not being depressed?' just didn't sit well with me.


No, it's rarely a choice, but having people (or even pets!) that depend on you is literally life-saving for many.


It is never a choice and it is always a choice because it is fundamentally an internal psychological battle.

I personally think that viewing it as a choice is the more productive of the two. That is to say, people have the choice to persevere, keep trying to improve, and trying to recover. Nothing will change without intent.


"Depression" isn't just the name of a disorder.


Not sure why you’re being downvoted; plenty of new parents let mental illness come between them and their responsibilities to their child/ren.

They didn’t have the option of neglecting their kids either; somehow it doesn’t stop them from doing so anyway.


Wikipedia says "Depression is a mental state of low mood and aversion to activity" - that's what I meant.

Mental illness is I think a different thing. Depression doesn't imply mental illness, nor does mental illness imply depression. I understand and agree that many people let mental illness come between them and whatever. It's a problem. It's just a different problem.


Yet you used the word "let", which implies agency and choice.


Not for students. CS6 single product was up to $250, CS6 DS $350, CS6 MC $800 compared to CC 1st year $240 increasing to $360. If you only needed a single product you were off worse after one year. Even doing a bachelors which required all products would have been less expensive with the one time fee if you had the money.


Back in the day (a decade ago) you would go to the lab which had Autodesk/Solidworks/Matlab/Adobe/$expensive-software installed instead of buying it for your personal (and probably underpowered) device. It was one of the few things that your tuition actually paid for.

And you'd have to learn time management to make sure you could get your project done on time instead of crunching at the last minute, because the lab would be filled with people who didn't.

</grumble>


Our lab used to let you remote desktop in for that stuff, but it was unreliable at best (especially during project crunch times) because anyone physically at the lab could kick you off your computer by unplugging it. Was still really nice to have if you were letting a rendering run overnight.

On the Autodesk side, they give out free access to student accounts, so I had that stuff both in the lab and on my home computer.


Where in the EU? In Germany they ask for 1429€ for the configuration you specified.


That was my bad. I was looking at the 512 GB model + an additional 8 GB of RAM. Even so, €1429 for 16 GB of non-upgradeable RAM in 2024 is ludicrous.


Oh I agree, just thought that there was a place in Europe were the prices are even more outrageous.


Agreed this is akin to

  HTTP 200
  {"error": "Not found"}


Not at all! It's like porting a program which expects there to be a TCP stack to a system which doesn't have one, and wiring up a component which responds to all HTTP requests with 404 instead of letting it hang on an infinite loop or crash. Say it uses a browser for rendering, but in the original you can also fetch websites, and the assumption is deeply baked into the code.

If your choice is between playing whack-a-mole with all parts of the system which might call out, or just issuing a 404 (after all, if there's no Internet, you're not going to find a web page on it), that's a reasonable way to solve the problem.


> responds to all HTTP requests with 404 instead of letting it hang on an infinite loop or crash

How is a 404 equivalent to not throwing an error? 404 would be like throwing the error and then not handling the 404.

And the equivalent of hanging and crashing in the xbox example would be hanging and crashing.


No, it means you may potentially have all of those but there is no guarantee. Neither is there a guarantee that a publicly insured person wouldn't receive the same treatment. E.g. if there aren't any free "better/worse" rooms what are they supposed to do? Many of these are nowadays covered by employers as a benefit or for cheap (~5€) out of pocket if you want.

Private insurance matters most for specialists that don't (aren't allowed to) have (or want) a public insurance license.


Supply chain issues, sanctions, travel or prices you can‘t afford at the moment your phone breaks down may make you switch the platform involuntarily.


They weren‘t caught while cheating though. So maybe hard to justify if they decided to go against expulsion with their lawyers.


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