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Just want to add: Also there are multiple riscv boards but I'd want to caution the casual readers: I believe both the ARM and riscv boards suffer from very high power draw so you'll get poor battery life using them as laptops. They would only be worth it for people that have reasons to be running arm/riscv, but for the general consumer you are definitely going to want the x86 boards.

> I hope framework lives up to its promise, but I don't see that happening any time soon.

That's already happened? I started with an 11th gen Intel tigerlake laptop with DDR4 memory and a glossy screen. I upgraded to the AMD 7040 with DDR5 memory when I destroyed my Intel board with a soldering iron, skipping the Intel 12th gen iteration in between and the AMD AI 300 generation after the 7040.

I upgraded my screen from the glossy to the matte screen, I skipped the 120hz rounded corner screen, and now I'm likely upgrading to the new screen released for the FW13 pro. I upgraded my wifi card to a card supporting wifi 7 and my SSD to a 2TB SSD.

I upgraded my hinges from the original 3.5kg to the 4.0kg hinges. I upgraded my top cover from the original to the CNC version.

So far all of these upgrades have been completely interchangeable. I could have done any combination of those upgrades (with the exception that the ram had to be upgraded at the same time as the motherboard because the ram slots are on the motherboard).

At this point, the only original parts remaining in my laptop are the battery, the bezel, and the metal clip that goes over the wifi card antenna connectors. My laptop is literally the ship of theseus, something that has not been possible in laptops before framework.

Based on these announcements, most of the new framework 13 pro upgrades are also completely interchangeable, the one exception being the bigger battery and the bottom cover need to be upgraded together but I could upgrade the input cover without upgrading the bottom cover and battery if I wanted.

Personally, I'm planning on taking my existing AMD 7040 board and dropping it into a completely new framework 13 pro chassis because I've already invested in 96GB of ram for this board. Since I'm going to get the whole pro chassis, I'll sadly have to replace my original 55Wh battery, but they can pry my bezel and metal wifi antenna clip from my cold dead hands!


This looks like you enjoy the process.

For me I aggressively follow laptop deals. For the last gen you can get competing laptops for the price of the main board alone.

Of course, I hope I'm wrong.

Buying used ThinkPads on eBay and installing Linux is closer to sustainability than buying into a new ecosystem of expensive and hard to find parts.


Or we could say “Thinkpads should be more modular, repairable, and upgradable.” Some of us want to support that approach.

The AMD board support USB4 40gbps in 2 of the 4 expansion slots.

7040: https://knowledgebase.frame.work/expansion-card-functionalit...

AI 300: https://knowledgebase.frame.work/expansion-card-functionalit...

Pro with AI 300: https://knowledgebase.frame.work/expansion-card-functionalit...

The nice part about the Intel board is all 4 ports support usb4/thunderbolt 4 so all 4 ports are completely interchangeable whereas on the AMD board I need to remember to plug my dock into the back ports closer to the hinge.


Thanks for checking! I am on my phone and I just remembered that the connectivity was somehow less. :)

I've had the framework 13 since batch 5 of their original first model and that has never happened to me once. Are you sure you're pushing the expansion cards _all the way_ in? They should click and the little button between the cards should pop up slightly more when the cards are fully inserted. It is certainly possible to have the cards visually look inserted and work normally but haven't actually been pushed in far enough to click/lock into place.

FWIW I've also replaced my chassis once, and never had this issue with either chassis.


Yeah if anything I've always had the opposite problem with my FW13 (12th gen Intel era) - removing the expansion cards is a pain in the ass with how tight it is. Curious if it got looser over time.

Regardless, glad to see they're just outright redesigned the expansion card mechanism, hopefully this stops issues on both ends of the spectrum.


Indeed, me too! I try to show my coworkers the cool expansion card system and end up embarrassing myself, struggling to remove the card for like 10 seconds.

> removing the expansion cards is a pain in the ass with how tight it is

Same experience here.

I've already ripped my thumb while trying to remove a card.

Now I use the back of iFixit's Jimmy to push them out.


Yeah they are, but I've got some admittedly snug USB cables on my charger, other cables don't do it. I've looked at the latch mechanism and it seems sharp and not worn down, and it clicks when I put it in. I suspect the button on the bottom gets pressed accidentally and unseats the latch.

Ah that could be it. My laptop mostly sits on my desk at home so there's not much opportunity for the button to get hit accidentally.

My headlamp is waterproof and it has a replaceable 18650 battery without needing to dab silicon(e?) on it. It is also rechargeable over USB type-c so I have both the option to replace the physical battery or plug it in to charge that battery.

FWIW I run llama.cpp on AMD hardware using Vulkan. I've got no complaints but also nothing else to compare against.

My top category was social security, followed by medicare. If I live long enough, I'll benefit from both of these. But regardless, these are great things to put our money towards. I'd much rather lose a couple tens of thousands per year than have our elderly dying homeless and hungry.

The next category was military which I think we can all agree that US spends too much on the military but it would be silly to claim that I don't benefit from the pax americana.

The next category was interest on debt... Which yeah... not stoked about that.


Everyone will have those as their top 4. ;)

I agree that helping the elderly, homeless, and hungry is good. Everyone does. The question is: Is the government making a better use of that money than you would? I believe the answer is a strong "NO". You do not get to keep the good and ignore the bad.

Lastly if you've ever walked around any major US city you'll see plenty of elderly, homeless, and hungry folk. So I'm not convinced any money going towards that goal has helped much. Haha


In addition, it serves as a good template for writing your own polymarket bot with whatever logic you want.

Aggressive anticheat not supporting Linux is not a fault of Linux. It is a fault of the aggressive anticheat and the games that decide to use it.


It doesn't matter whose fault it is, I go where the games actually work and are playable, which is still Windows today for many games.


Its a matter of language. When non-technical people here "Linux doesn't support anticheat", that's a lot different than when they hear "anticheat chooses to block Linux".

It doesn't matter to you, but other people care about false accusations.


Who is accusing Linux as the cause of anticheat not working? I haven't ever seen that, I see people blaming the anticheat creators for not supporting Linux, they know Linux is not the one at fault yet they still want to play games therefore they use Windows instead.


You didn't read the thread? It's the comment I was replying to: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47718255

They quote "If a game has an aggressive anticheat" and then state "The determination of the average Linux user to ignore the faults of Linux", which is accusing Linux of being at fault for the aggressive anticheat not working.


I did not read that to mean that Linux is at fault, I usually would use "X's faults" colloquially to mean drawbacks, not literally, X is at fault and therefore responsibility for this.


Ah well then we have a slightly different interpretation. I would read "the faults of <x>" as "the flaws of <x>", which would then imply a flaw of Linux is why aggressive anticheat doesn't work when it is just companies deciding it isn't worth their time.

FWIW, I am not alone in that interpretation since this commenter reached the same conclusion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47718389

But I don't think we can conclusively say either one of our interpretations is correct.


At this point, I'm surprised the streaming services aren't grandfathering people into their current plan+rate like the cellular networks do. It would encourage people to keep their subscription active to keep their rate rather than cancelling it and signing up again when there is a specific show they want to watch, while also avoiding the price increase frustrations.

PS: Thanks for the reminder about the price increase, just cancelled my netflix.


I've been doing the "pause" option not just for Netflix but multiple streamers. Adding up all of the streaming subs totaled as much monthly as the cable bill I did away with which made sense when everything was on Netflix. Now each studio has their own platform with similar per month fees. There's not enough content to justify that much monthly expense.


I have tried to get my wife to pause some of our subs but she absolutely refuses. She says "we're not poor" (we are not) and apparently just wants to spend $70/mo on these damn things.

Even if costs were lower, I still think we should not have so many, since it spoils our kids. I don't want them to see TV as "we have access to everything all the time". I want them to see that there are tradeoffs, and understand that we could have hundreds of dollars more if we had Netflix for half the year and Disney+ for half the year, for example.

There's also something to be said for restarting a sub and being excited to watch content that you had been waiting to see.


> "we have access to everything all the time"

I remember when there were 3 networks. I remember when those networks stopped broadcasting content around midnight by playing the national anthem and then playing bars or just going off the air. I used to think the concept of UHF is kind of lost, but then realized it's kind of just what YouTube has become-weird, random, wacky content produced by just about anybody that can hit record on a camera.


And Saturday morning cartoons from 5am-1pm... then they started rolling back the non-toons earlier until no more Saturday morning cartoons.

Phoenix, AZ had a local variety kids morning show, "Wallace and Ladmo" that anyone from the area born before 1985 or so probably remembers.


Dallas had the Mr Peppermint Show that was syndicated to a few places around the country.

By the time the Saturday morning cartoons were gone, there were 24/7 channels for cartoons and kid's entertainment.


True... but it was never really the same... IMO Saturday Mornings were kind of a special event before there were 24/7 cartoon network etc. Even if 2/3 of it was of dubious quality.


My wife and I realized we were spending too much _time_ just watching shows we didn't really like.

So we paused on ALL paid streaming services.

The "effort" it takes to a watch a movie on Kanopy, and the fact a movie is only two hours, gives us a lot of value. It's not a money thing, it's a "what am I spending my time on" thing.


I remember as a kid, mostly having access to HBO/Showtime etc during their "free" week/month that came along about once a year or so. I think my dad subbed for a couple months once, but that was it. Otherwise it was just basic cable and nothing else.

Even then, 90% of the time was watching local/broadcast networks via cable.


> Even then, 90% of the time was watching local/broadcast networks via cable

that was pretty much the point of cable being invented. the other networks just jumped on the bandwagon in a "if you build it" situation


One thing to pay attention to is that Netflix deletes your watchlist if you “pause” for longer than ten months.


lots of cell phone services are no longer doing that either.


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