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Good point, I'll look into it. I'm NOT an expert in infectious disease, I study human behavior. These creepy coincidences were just gut instincts. My point was not to draw a conclusion but to just push people away from being anchored to this being like the flu.


I also posted it to Linkedin https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/covid-19-hiv-follow-me-down-r...

I believe this will and should make it into the mainstream press


This was a quick write up of what I've discovered over the past week. It actually came out of research for an economic theory I was writing for the World Economic Forum. It is not a definitive argument of any kind. You can read it through this free link https://medium.com/@sarahnadav/covid-19-hiv-follow-me-down-t...


This is more than a rabbit warren Sarah...

A quote from a peer reviewed paper by Shi Zhengli the 'Chinese Bat Lady' on how she combined SARS and HIV

"we investigated the receptor usage of the SL-CoV S by combining a human immunodeficiency virus-based pseudovirus system with cell lines expressing the ACE2 molecules of human, civet, or horseshoe bat"

https://project-evidence.github.io/#%28part._p1%29


I'm reading this through and it's hard to understand why this isn't common knowledge


Their original article was published in 2008- so what I question is why this was ever OK.


HOLY SHIT.


This is a very well researched and referenced investigation into the origins of CoV-SARS-2 virus and the activities of Shi Zhengli and her associates.

https://greatgameindia.com/covid19-files-scientific-investig...


Ya, that is noted in the post. Otherwise, it would be hard to imagine how HIV gene sequences would get in the mix. Unless perhaps there was a monkey involved...which seems less likely than this coming out of a lab


Do you have a link about the HIV gene sequences? I remember a preprint that claimed that, but the sequence were very short, not whole genes. Two where 6 amino acid long and the other where not exact matches, but a small matech nearby a small match.

For an analogy, let's imagine that the genome of the virus were a short esay, and the whole genes were sentences. It is like claiming plagirism, because two persons use the word "banana" and the word "apple" in another sentence and then they used "co???ion" and "in???ing" in another two sentences.


I don't have links about the HIV gene sequence but in the post I put every primary research article I could find about COVID-19 and HIV or T-Cells.

COVID-19 is bonding to T-cells and killing them, in a way that is similar to HIV but not exactly the same


It is the last article linked Uncanny similarity of unique inserts in the 2019-nCoV spike protein to HIV-1 gp120 and Gag

The important part is in Table 1. If you take a look at the coincidences, the first two are equal but very short. The third one has a hole and it has a few differences

  RSYL---TPGDSSSG
  RTYLFNETRGNSSSG
The fourth one has also a big hole, but they are using another strain of the virus. This article has a more detailed analysis https://theprepared.com/blog/no-the-2019-ncov-genome-doesnt-...


I included that study but it was retracted later. I believe that it is still valuable in the context of the bigger picture of research and the conversation on the subject.

There is other peer-reviewed research which is included


I think it was never officialy published. The other research articles don't claim that Covid-19 has copies of parts of HIV.


No- they claim that it attacks T-cells like HIV


The odd thing is that even the media is starting to talk about the lab theory. Even if it was true, I would never expect to see it get air time. But it is.


It seemed like a conspiracy theory but in all fairness- a mistake that came out of a lab is certainly a possibility.


+1


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Just FYI- this has been part of our marketing plan for weeks- the John Oliver thing is just a coincidence.


Also- just FYI, John Oliver was paying off expired medical debt which was actually very useless and one of the most annoying media exploits of the defaulted debt industry I have ever seen. He didn't actually help anyone.

Plus he was copying Occupy Wallstreet that paid of 35 mil of actual medical debt for people and forgave it without giving them any credit.

#justsayin


oh you mean this? http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/06/john-oliver-m...

Just ping JO through twitter to ask for an acknowledgement on his next show?


Funny you say that. I thought it was weird that he didn't mention it because I've been in the industry for years.

But apparently, he left them out on purpose so as not to be associated with Occupiers (according to them) http://blog.debtcollective.org/whos-afraid-of-occupy-hbos-jo...


> he left them out on purpose so as not to be associated with Occupiers

That was probably a good idea. Some people (including some liberals) would close their ears as soon as they heard about any association with Occupy.


If I were him, I would have put it in at the end, but I would have included what they did even if he didn't say he worked WITH them.

What they did was very important- and as an economist I would say that they deserve to be included in the history of dealing with this massive debt problem


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