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You did not deny any of these claims about the Chinese state:

1. Government surveillance of domestic citizens is far more intrusive than in any Western country. (NSA revelations are not a refutation).

2. Prominent citizens get disappeared. There is little to no transparency in the judicial process.

3. There is no freedom of speech in China. You cannot criticize the government from within the borders effectively without being in danger.

4. China does not have a free Internet in the sense any Western country does.

5. Social credit scores exist, and will be used to reinforce the government's authority.

6. There are ongoing human rights abuses in China other than what I've already mentioned.

You can evade this all you want and talk about how nobody can possibly know about China unless they go there. But you can't refute any of these, so that is all you can do.



> There is little to no transparency in the judicial process.

my father sued the company owned by Chinese vice Premier's son, he won the case after fighting it all the way to the supreme court.

we are average joes without any connection to those on the top. you can keep telling me how I am being repressed by the Chinese government, I will just look at you with sympathy as you are the victim of your brainwashing media.


>my father sued the company owned by Chinese vice Premier's son, he won the case after fighting it all the way to the supreme court.

If it was only a business issues, I don't doubt you could win. After all it is only money, which I am sure they have plenty of.


This is the same argument that people make when they say "but I worked for Microsoft, and I never heard about any NSA backdoors!".




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