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Not sure what might still be missing, but I add the ones from XEmacs for graphical tooling integration, that might still be missing.

By the way, Gosling now rather uses IDEs.



He is THE Java guy, and java is pain without massive IDEs.

What I find here funny is that Netbeans is dead, and nobody ever mentions it on HN. And we still talk about emacs.


All programming languages are a pain without IDEs, who thinks otherwise is masochistic.

That guy did lots of stuff on his career, decades before Java was a thing, including XEmacs.


NetBeans is dead because JetBrains was a better NetBeans.


NetBeans was killed by competition with Eclipse. IDEA had nothing to do with it.


The only thing JetBrains is better is turning my laptop into a grill.




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