> I might for the sake of argument point out that Cuba clearly provides dramatically better healthcare and education outcomes than America
How many Cubans want to leave and come to America? How many Americans want to live in Cuba? Venezuela? N. Korea?
Therein lies the answer to your argument.
It's interesting you chose to compare health care and education. Public education in the US is a gigantic socialist system. So is health care. You're not comparing a socialist system with a market based system. You're comparing a socialist system with a socialist system - which says nothing about what market system could do.
And lastly, who collects those astounding statistics on Cuba? The Soviet Union was famous for celebrating astounding statistics on food production, while the people starved. Why should we believe statistics collected by another communist, totalitarian outfit?
Their argument wasn't the specifics of the hypothetical. You're actually supposed to believe that Cuba isn't unilaterally better than America for the example to work.
You're in the middle of a discussion about Rights, why would you think this is suddenly a debate about Cuba?
How many Cubans want to leave and come to America? How many Americans want to live in Cuba? Venezuela? N. Korea?
Therein lies the answer to your argument.
It's interesting you chose to compare health care and education. Public education in the US is a gigantic socialist system. So is health care. You're not comparing a socialist system with a market based system. You're comparing a socialist system with a socialist system - which says nothing about what market system could do.
And lastly, who collects those astounding statistics on Cuba? The Soviet Union was famous for celebrating astounding statistics on food production, while the people starved. Why should we believe statistics collected by another communist, totalitarian outfit?