Can we just be happy that Apple is slowly changing, and stop constantly moving on to the next thing to complain about? If you never look behind you you’ll lose sight of how much progress has been made.
I’d also disagree that they’re the same screen as another user pointed out, the iPhone has a better screen.
Even if Apple decided to charge more for parts, that’s their choice. True Tone can now be used with 3rd party screens, so go buy the cheaper knockoff screen if you so choose.
Apple has done more to make this phone repairable in the last 3yrs than I think any OEM has done since waterproofing started and phones became sealed. The electrically released metal covered battery is going to be a huge thing for self repair. You or I might find it easy to just yank a battery out, but someone somewhere will follow the instructions and then puncture it and sue the OEM for the battery fire, and this hugely reduces that liability.
> Can we just be happy that Apple is slowly changing, and stop constantly moving on to the next thing to complain about?
No?
Why should we stop comparing Apple to its main competitors because they took a minor step in the right direction but still miss the mark by a wide margin? It's only fair to keep them on the hook for things where they do worse.
I don't want Apple to progress. Apple is not a kid to coddle. It's the most profitable company in the world. Being best in class in repearability is the bare minimum we should expect for them, not something we should hope for.
> The electrically released metal covered battery is going to be a huge thing for self repair.
They could just stop gluing battery entirely. It's not like it's an impossible engineering challenge. It's soon to be mandatory in the EU anyway.
> Why should we stop comparing Apple to its main competitors because they took a minor step in the right direction but still miss the mark by a wide margin? It's only fair to keep them on the hook for things where they do worse.
As someone who has repaired numerous cell phones over the last decade, I firmly believe the new iPhone is now far easier to repair than the new Samsung Galaxy, and I challenge you to prove me wrong. It might now be the most repairable mass market phone. You’re welcome to whine on the internet if you think that that is “holding them accountable”, but at the same time appreciate the change.
> They could just stop gluing battery entirely. It's not like it's an impossible engineering challenge. It's soon to be mandatory in the EU anyway
Disagreements over that not being the place of a government aside, while I suppose they could screw it down like a laptop, this is my point, they made it better and you’re still complaining. If it isn’t good enough for you then don’t buy the product and buy something else. If the entire market wanted repairable phones (instead of a maybe 1% that I myself am a part of) then they would make phones that fit together like legos. This grandstanding that there is a moral requirement of companies to design products in the way you want is silly.
> As someone who has repaired numerous cell phones over the last decade, I firmly believe the new iPhone is now far easier to repair than the new Samsung Galaxy, and I challenge you to prove me wrong. It might now be the most repairable mass market phone.
You are the one making grandiose claim.
Is it full of glue? Yes. Do they still tie spare parts origin to functionalities semi-arbitrarily? Yes. Are there spare parts far more expensive that they should be considering their actual costs? Also yes.
> Disagreements over that not being the place of a government aside, while I suppose they could screw it down like a laptop, this is my point, they made it better and you’re still complaining.
They could just do like the Fairphone or any other companies from the past decade and make it properly swapable.
Once again, I don't want them to make it better. I want them to make it properly repairable. I don't give a tosh that it's improving. They have unlimited budget if they want to.
> This grandstanding that there is a moral requirement of companies to design products in the way you want is silly.
It's not grandstanding. If you want to bury your head in the sand and pretend there is no issue with e-waste and obsolescence, that's your choice. Sadly we share the same planet so I will still do everything I can to force Apple to actually make good choices considering they don't seem to be able to do so unless they are forced to.
Parts serialization didn't make thievery of phones go down. How could it? It's thievery of opportunity. Do you really think an hypothetical thief which would be like "how damn the phone I just pickpocketed is an iPhone. Let me give it back I can't sell the parts" exist?
The only thing it does is allow Apple to keep parts price artificially high, business as usual for Apple.
Given that Apple moved the goalposts in the first place (they literally invented an inferior screw head -- the Pentalobe -- to stymie repair), I'm steadfastly disinclined to give them much credit for slowly backtracking on anti-repair manufacturing techniques like battery adhesive that they themselves pioneered the use of first, in laptops no less.
Really, Apple invented it? Did they also invent a time machine to go back 5 years before it was first used on an Apple device to deliver a batch pentalobes to Sony in 2003?
Might want to not rely on Wikipedia for your nitpicking rebuttal to my point -- the Sony "Pentalobe" was NOT the same as Apple's, it is 5-flanged but has clearly cut-off tips: https://preview.redd.it/mdo85jqd6rcb1.jpg?width=3024&format=... -- and regardless, Apple's wide-scale use of these screw-heads was transparently anti-repair.
Who said I was comparing it to Phillips? Sure, Apple used to use Phillips for their case-back screws on their laptops, but Torx (superior to Pentalobe) already existed, and may have already been used by Apple elsewhere (I don't readily recall).
I’d also disagree that they’re the same screen as another user pointed out, the iPhone has a better screen. Even if Apple decided to charge more for parts, that’s their choice. True Tone can now be used with 3rd party screens, so go buy the cheaper knockoff screen if you so choose.
Apple has done more to make this phone repairable in the last 3yrs than I think any OEM has done since waterproofing started and phones became sealed. The electrically released metal covered battery is going to be a huge thing for self repair. You or I might find it easy to just yank a battery out, but someone somewhere will follow the instructions and then puncture it and sue the OEM for the battery fire, and this hugely reduces that liability.