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It bears repeating -

While all games delisted at MC/Visa demands were from the rape and/or incest nsfw genre (and that should've not been on Steam to begin with), it still set a dangerous precedent as the game selection criteria was ultimately subjective. Relatable, but subjective. Next time it will again be subjective, but not as clear cut, yet the precedent will already be in place.



When are they going to remove the murder genre? Including the game where you can murder a prostitute to get your payment back... it's very obscure, you might not have heard of it... it's called GTA V.


Americans seem to think murder is A-OKAY (as long as you don't murder an unborn fetus, or show a nipple while murdering).


Well yeah.

It's a video game, nobody actually dies.

If you show a nipple, somebody actually sees a nipple.


No they don't see a nipple? They see just pixels on some screen, not a nipple.


I genuinely can't tell if this is a joke.

If this is not a joke, please elaborate on the difference between "seeing a murder" and "seeing a nipple".


half-joke.

The difference is that it's not "seeing" a murder. It's committing a murder vs watching pornography.

Killing somebody in a video game isn't real murder. Seeing a nude character is still pornography.


> Killing somebody in a video game isn't real murder.

Likewise, having sex in a video game isn't real sex. It's still pornography, okay, sure, and..? And..?


> It's still pornography, okay, sure, and..? And..?

That's the point. Many people don't like pornography. So much so that they've collectively grouped together to demand payment processors make changes.


Oh ye. And where you also collect people in busses and bring them to factories to make hot dogs out of them.

I seriously don't think we have the 'margin' to excuse GTA anymore. It is not the 90s and way to many people are on the brink of going mad.


Why shouldn't they have been on steam? There are plenty of movies we can all go buy/rent/watch on amazon right now that have that content.


There are better arguments to make than this one.

Every law, order, rule, and regulation is captured by this argument. It needs to provide a scissor to be meaningful.


Point being that even though this time the takedown targets were reasonable, the next time they might not be, but the mechanism will be already in place.


Reasonable by your standard. As others noted not necessarily reasonable by theirs, especially when you contrast it with other games that remain available. It also flies in the face of research that shows that games probably prevent those fantasies from taking place in the real world which seems preferable.


> research that shows ...

Hit us with the source. Would love to see the methodology used in it.


What evidence would you accept? What would the methodology and conclusions look like for a study that would be convincing?


Are you also in favor of prohibiting most booksellers from selling books which either contain scenes of or are exclusively about rape and/or incest? If not, why not?

In addition:

> (and that should've not been on Steam to begin with)

Where do you believe that they should have been sold? Are you proposing a separate "Steam: After Dark" store that only adult humans are permitted to browse and purchase from?




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