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I've seen one of these posts for every single one of the ~15 years I've been using apple products, and yet still here we are, and for most it still the least worst OS going.


> I've seen one of these posts for every single one of the ~15 years I've been using apple products

Yes, one. On Tahoe there’s thirty. The scale of complaints is definitely higher this time around.


And also you are seeing serious criticism from the traditional Apple fan crowd, e.g. John Gruber has been panning it mercilessly.


It is kind of funny how most of them scapegoat that Dye guy (who was poached by Meta). As if a single person was responsible for all that bad design, and it isn't a failure of the whole organisation.


Yes, it's like in that joke about not having to run faster than the bear.

As long as their competition is what it is, they don't have to put much effort in.


Yes. Maybe they saw Windows 11 and decided that now it's the right time to release Liquid Glass and fix it later. Anyway I've been on Linux since 2009 and it's getting better at each release (Ubuntus up to 20.04 and then Debian, Gnome.)


I've been on linux 1999-2013 but then I got tired of it "getting better" UI wise so I bought Macs.

I should check out how KDE is doing, Gnome and whatever Ubuntu delivers these days don't look like fun.

Command lines... I have them open on mac, linux and windows all the time.


That's pretty common: a lot of developers left Windows for a Mac in the 2000s because it was a more comfortable and realiable Unix than Linux. However I never liked the UI of Macs, so I never bought one. It was OK on the 9" screen of the original Mac in 1984, but weird on larger screens.

Luckily I've been able to make my GNOME desktop look like exactly what I want since at least 2020, when the ecosystem of GNOME shell extensions got mature enough. My current desktop is close to mix of old Windows and GNOME 2, with virtual desktops and other stuff that did not exist back then. I like stuff to stay put on screen, so no animations and all those UI gimmicks. Maybe I should have started from KDE but I got burned by KDE in 2014 and I hesitate to invest time to look at it again.


> a lot of developers left Windows for a Mac

I left linux for a Mac in 2013.


Talk about lock-in and enshittification.




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