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The name of the game for me is building “sh#t that works well” and I like it, and that means constant learning no doubt. I’ve done crazy sh!t like implementing Webservers with bash, accessed accessed by tunneling over uart, to configure laser driven HUD on a pair of glasses. All this was new to me but I did it and it works well within the constraints we were given.

Now AI is making us more efficient (with questionable quality) that means we need less people to get a job done, less people hired per project. I have personally experienced this, to a degree. Now if I get layedoff and I don’t meet the cut because there is more competition someone better or more desperate that me, I’m out of luck.

I can restart my career as an electrician, I studied a lot of electronics both professionally and personally, but I will be starting as an apprentice, that’s not putting food on my table.

> We are paying you $200k-300k base salaries

That’s nice, I earn far less than half that as a web dev in Norway.

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Yea most people earn far less than that in the US too, that’s just hacker news being out of touch

> That’s nice, I earn less than half that as a web dev in Norway

Well, that's a different conversation then, and you raise a fair point.

I think it is fair for most Europeans to complain because your business community does not respect software and other engineering and IP driven disciplines.

The fact that Bangalore [0] tech salaries have caught up to Italian [1] tech salaries highlights that fact. But then again, you are competing against Czech [2], Polish [3], and Romanian [4] developers who are also members of the EFTA and whose governments provide massive subsidizes for tech companies to operate there.

On the other hand, if I see American SWEs complain I will get livid.

> I’ve done crazy sh!t like implementing Webservers with bash, accessed accessed by tunneling over uart, to configure laser driven HUD on a pair of glasses. All this was new to me but I did it and it works well within the constraints we were given.

That is great stuff from a technical perspective, but what I mean is making sure any development work you do is aligned with your employer, or shifting employers to one who is better aligned with SWEs and Engineering, such as my buddies from college who specialized in HPC and ended up doing simulation work in Equinor style ONG majors.

Alternatively, you may have no choice but to immigrate to Stockholm or London because there is some amount of network effect for software in both metros.

> Now if I get layedoff and I don’t meet the cut because there is more competition someone better or more desperate that me, I’m out of luck

Assuming you live in a city (an actual city) like Oslo and keep up-to-date technically you should be fine.

[0] - https://www.levels.fyi/t/software-engineer/locations/greater...

[1] - https://www.levels.fyi/t/software-engineer/locations/italy

[2] - https://www.levels.fyi/t/software-engineer/locations/czech-r...

[3] - https://www.levels.fyi/t/software-engineer/locations/poland

[4] - https://www.levels.fyi/t/software-engineer/locations/romania




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