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Sounds hellish.

"His administration is focused on delivering on his promise to reduce the immigrant population and argues, despite the protestations of economists, that doing so will mean greater opportunities and wages for native-born workers and will reduce the cost of everything from housing to health care by reducing demand.

“There is no shortage of American minds and hands to grow our labor force, and President Trump’s agenda to create jobs for American workers represents this Administration’s commitment to capitalizing on that untapped potential while delivering on our mandate to enforce our immigration laws,” says Abigail Jackson, a White House spokeswoman."





I wish there were more reasoned debate and distinguishing between legal immigration including tech workers (H-1B visas) versus illegal immigration for eg food truck workers, DoorDash scooter drivers.

Also the lack of knowledge about the existence of the fantastic and generous H-2A visa for farm workers is maddening.


H1B is just a cheap labour scam unless you think there aren't any Americans that could do the jobs on the jobs.now website that reposts the H1B re-advertisements.

H-2A is expensive and prone to abuse. It is generally considered a failure by both employers and workers who participate in it. So I’m guessing your use of fantastic and generous is either sarcasm or uninformed?

I've read opinions from farmers who say they wouldn't be able to operate without H-2A.

The stipulations are incredibly generous with unlimited renewals though have to leave the country for 60 days every 3 years.

There's also a pathway to citizenship for specializations in agriculture such as the dairy industry. And they can bring family members too. It's an uncapped program too.

At least on paper it's an incredibly generous visa compared to other types of visas with more restrictions for family sponsorship and immigration.

I agree it's expensive though, that's a big reason why there so many illegal immigrant farm workers. A few reforms and that can be legalized through H-2A


Nobody cares.

Why a debate - we are not allowing enough immigrants, VISA class is just hiding that fact.


“There is no shortage of American minds and hands to grow our labor force" - amazing that you can get people to believe that. There is a massive shortage of labor and the labor force participation rate is already dangerously high.

There is no labor shortage. Look at layoffs and job openings - lowest since 2020.

Yes, Trump is also successfully destroying the demand side of the labor economy at the same time. Is that what his supporters imagined that sentence means? It is nevertheless the case that the prime-age labor force participation rate is bouncing off 85% and getting it any higher than that is impossible.

LOL. There is no labour shortage. There is only a shortage at a particular price point.

If there is such a labour shortage, what explains the layoffs?




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