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How is this a goalpost shift? The person I was responding to seems to think it's only tourist and chain hotels that accept credit cards.

Show me a hotel in Europe that doesn't. Stop trying to associate credit card usage with foreign tourism in a negative light.

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Ok fair enough. I used the terms interchangeably but shouldn't have - I can't edit my post.

So to be more clear: find me a hotel in Europe that doesn't require a credit card to book or have on file related to the reasons I stated above.


I live in Europe and have stayed at quite a few hotels, I don't have a credit card, I do have two debit cards.

Sure, can you provide an example?

And separately, does that hotel accept credit cards?

By the way, American debit cards also run on Visa and Mastercard. So going back to the OP this idea of Europe "breaking up" with Visa and Mastercard is just not going to happen even if somehow whatever number of European businesses just stopped accepting credit cards.


Hotels in 10+ European countries? They accept any visa/mastercard and don't care if its debit or credit, its irrelevant. They will keep accepting them in addition to this new EU system.

Glad you finally agree with me.

Are you confusing debit and credit cards?

I think you don't know what you're talking about in this conversation, but I'll kindly summarize it for you.

I said the following in context of using credit cards:

  > Buying a bottle of Calvados in some remote area? Yea just tap to pay with your Mastercard.
Jimnotgym said:

  > Hard disagree.
Implying that it is in fact not easy, or common, or something like that.

graemep then wrote:

  > It's not just American tourists. It's everyone from everywhere. If you do not accept Visa and Mastercard you are not going to accept payments from all sorts of travellers (tourists, business people, people from your own country living abroad) either.
So at this point jimnotgym is saying, effectively, "tourists use credit cards". graemep is accurately pointing out that everyone uses credit cards, not just tourists.

Let's continue...

jimnotgym says:

  > Who all stop in chain hotels, who will accept whatever you bring.
So here what's happening is jimnotgym is basically saying tourists use credit cards, they only stay in chain hotels.

Here is where I highlighted why credit cards are used (and sure, debit cards too) and then claiming that every hotel in Europe takes credit cards.

And then afterward you've said a few things which, of course one of them I acknowledged using the wrong words for. Since then you've just been arguing points that aren't relevant to the conversation at hand. You at one point claimed you used a debit card at a hotel.

Great.

Find me a single hotel in Europe that doesn't take credit cards Why? Because jimnotgym is asserting credit cards "are a tourist thing" and are used only at chain hotels or hotels for tourist. I'm giving him a softball question and setting an extreme anchor point here. The vast majority of hotels in Europe take credit cards regardless of whether they are catering to "tourists" or not. That's a demonstrable fact. But do all hotels? I bet they do. Which goes to prove that credit card usage at hotels isn't limited to "tourists".

If you have any specific questions you'd like to ask, I'd be happy to answer them. I don't know what point you're trying to make here and it really seems like you've lost track of what the initial conversation was and now you're just arguing things that aren't being argued.




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