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ceejayoz · 2026-03-30T17:54:36 1774893276

> Is it ok now to call the US electorate suckers?

I don't think you have to wait for 2026 on that one.

algo_trader · 2026-03-30T18:24:30 1774895070

> Israel has both universal healthcare and tuition free university

This is both wrong and off topic.

Israel health care is funded by a 5% additional income tax tier. non working people pay a significant fixed annual fee.

University is not free. $5K for the public institutions - which have limited admissions. $10K for many of the spill over private institutions.

Now - about those space lasers ....

Synaesthesia · 2026-03-30T18:51:27 1774896687

5k is almost free. And yes you pay tax to find universities. Makes sense. Paying full tuition in the USA is like paying a tax, only worse, it's a lot more.

etiennebausson · 2026-03-30T18:59:10 1774897150

As disgusted as I am with Israel's action over the last 80 years, put the blame where it belong.

5k is far from nothing, it is more than enough in any country than subsidize higher education.

Which is most of the world at this point.

Synaesthesia · 2026-03-30T19:40:26 1774899626

I mean have you seen what US colleges cost?

etiennebausson · 2026-03-30T19:55:01 1774900501

The US is very much an outlier.

This give a very different picture:

https://www.studyineurope.eu/tuition-fees/

myth_drannon · 2026-03-30T17:54:28 1774893268

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ohhman11 · 2026-03-30T17:59:02 1774893542

There would be no public education nor healthcare in Israel without US money.

myth_drannon · 2026-03-30T18:02:26 1774893746

Israel has had public education and public healthcare forever, even going back when US had no colored and jews signs in their public spaces.

ceejayoz · 2026-03-30T18:04:12 1774893852

> Israel has had public education and public healthcare forever…

This also applies to US aid.

myth_drannon · 2026-03-30T18:22:38 1774894958

Nope, Israel had it much earlier.

ceejayoz · 2026-03-30T18:23:18 1774894998

Israel, the nation state, came into being in 1948, with the explicit financial and military aid of the United States to do so. It has had American support since within hours of its founding.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Israel#State_of_...

"At the end of 1948, 53% of Israel's Jewish population was insured, about 80% of them by Clalit, with a few small health funds insuring the remainder. In the following years, Israel's healthcare system was expanded, and within a decade, about 90% were insured."

Universal healthcare became a thing in 1995, it seems.

tkah · 2026-03-30T18:48:36 1774896516

To be fair here, what people often overlook by using Israel's current government as a reference point is that during the Kibbutz era Israel was decidedly left-wing. So I wouldn't necessarily attribute the presence of 90% or later 100% health care to US money.

ohhman11 · 2026-04-01T08:27:44 1775032064

>So I wouldn't necessarily attribute the presence of 90% or later 100% health care to US money.

This is very strange, given that there would be no state of Israel without US money.

ohhman11 · 2026-04-01T08:26:33 1775031993

Why would you even bother to post this obviously false claim? Might as well claim that the earth is flat.

inaros · 2026-03-30T17:56:43 1774893403

Ah yes...the criticizing Israel is antisemitic argument...

"I stand behind the Israeli soldiers; whether there are children or women, it doesn't matter to me if there is damage. There are no innocent civilians in Jenin" - https://www.instagram.com/reel/DWWUmuFDgqP/

myth_drannon · 2026-03-30T18:07:19 1774894039

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constantius · 2026-03-30T19:35:55 1774899355

You're doing it again, conflating antisemitism and criticism of Israel, I flagged your comments.

cherry_tree · 2026-03-30T19:39:34 1774899574

Boiling legitimate criticism of the USA funding of Israel to “of course the Jews stole it” is intellectually dishonest.

myth_drannon · 2026-03-30T19:52:58 1774900378

It would have been a valid criticism if it mentioned US aid to Ukraine (which is far larger), or aid to Egypt or the aid by maintaining military bases in South Korea, Japan, Europe. But nothing of that was mentioned, only the Jewish state. Hence it is a good ol' antisemitism.