>That's precisely what I'm disagreeing with. Not everyone sees configuring a system as "merely tedious busy-work". I for one like setting things up.
And what you're saying is precisely what I'm disagreeing with. I'm sure there are people that like those things (mostly beginner's with Unix and such, tinkerers etc). It's a form of passtime.
That doesn't mean it's challenging in any creative way. It's a boring ass brain puzzle that tons of people are solving again and again.
The sense of "accomplishment" of getting the dependencies to build X right, might be valid if you just started building things and getting to know how compilers, libs etc work, but it's grows old very quickly for normal people and it's a false accomplishment after that initial stage.
Actually saying you enjoy that is like saying you like boilerplate code, because that's exactly what it amounts to.
>It might not be the kind of fun and challenging you're looking for, but please, try not to state state opinion as fact.
Sure, you can find people that like everything, even the most boring ass shit. I'm sure there are people that enjoy calculating logarithms manually too. But I wouldn't call such bizarro outlier fun as fun in the accepted sense.
But it's a fact (I've seldom seen anyone state the opposite, tons of texts from Stack Overflow to blog posts support this) that most programmers/hackers tear their hair out to get rid of those "fun" tedious configuration/setup/figuring dependencies etc work and move to the real part.
I've actually never read an interview with a hero programmer where he said that he likes those parts of programming -- but have read tons of those that say the exact opposite, from Alan Kay to Jamie Zawinsky.
Actually a large part of programming is exactly about removing (automating) those tedious parts.
And what you're saying is precisely what I'm disagreeing with. I'm sure there are people that like those things (mostly beginner's with Unix and such, tinkerers etc). It's a form of passtime.
That doesn't mean it's challenging in any creative way. It's a boring ass brain puzzle that tons of people are solving again and again.
The sense of "accomplishment" of getting the dependencies to build X right, might be valid if you just started building things and getting to know how compilers, libs etc work, but it's grows old very quickly for normal people and it's a false accomplishment after that initial stage.
Actually saying you enjoy that is like saying you like boilerplate code, because that's exactly what it amounts to.
>It might not be the kind of fun and challenging you're looking for, but please, try not to state state opinion as fact.
Sure, you can find people that like everything, even the most boring ass shit. I'm sure there are people that enjoy calculating logarithms manually too. But I wouldn't call such bizarro outlier fun as fun in the accepted sense.
But it's a fact (I've seldom seen anyone state the opposite, tons of texts from Stack Overflow to blog posts support this) that most programmers/hackers tear their hair out to get rid of those "fun" tedious configuration/setup/figuring dependencies etc work and move to the real part.
I've actually never read an interview with a hero programmer where he said that he likes those parts of programming -- but have read tons of those that say the exact opposite, from Alan Kay to Jamie Zawinsky.
Actually a large part of programming is exactly about removing (automating) those tedious parts.