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>> Using the same o-rings afterwards is surprising, I've heard that the manufacturer was surprised that they were being used for that purpose because they weren't rated for that.

Not surprising if you understand what the real cause was: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47585889


>>I find that highly surprising, because "it was the O-rings" explanation seems universally believed and sanctified by no lesser authority than the Nobel prize laureate Richard Feynman.

Essentially you are mischaracterizing what Feynman did or say, although this is also Feynman fault :-), by doing the famous public demonstration, with the ice water in a glass [2], although even there he only said it has "significance to the problem...". In other words, we should not simplify, even for the general public, what are complex subtle engineering issues. This is also the reason why current AI, will fail spectacularly, but I digress...

Feynman documented the joint rotation problem in his written Appendix F, but his televised demonstration became the explanation...[3]

Camarda is correct here. There was a fundamentally flawed field joint design, meaning the tang-and-clevis joint opened under combustion pressure instead of closing. This meant the O-rings were being asked to chase a widening gap something the O-ring manufacturer explicitly told Thiokol O-rings were never designed to do. Joint rotation was known as early as 1977, a full nine years before the disaster.

The cold temperature made things worse by stiffening the rubber so it could not chase the gap as quickly, but O-ring erosion and blow-by were occurring on flights in warm weather too and nearly every flight in 1985 showed damage.

The proof is how they fixed. NASA redesigned the joint metal structure with a capture feature to prevent rotation, added a third O-ring for redundancy, and installed heaters but kept the exact same Viton rubber. If the O-rings were the real problem, you would change the O-rings. They did not need to.

The report [1] is public for everybody to read...but not from the NASA page... who funnily enough has a block on the link from their own page, so I had to find an alternative link...

[1] - https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GPO-CRPT-99hrpt1016/pdf/...

[2] - https://youtu.be/6TInWPDJhjU

[3] - https://calteches.library.caltech.edu/3570/1/Feynman.pdf


Yeah--people don't get it that while it was the failure of the O-rings that doomed that flight that they failed because they were subjected to forces they were never designed to take. The fact that they got that many flights before it blew actually says they were doing an admirable job of covering up the design flaw.

That's valuable, detailed explanation, thanks.

Is it ok now to call the US electorate suckers?

"US Republicans consider health care cuts to fund Iran war" - https://www.aa.com.tr/en/americas/us-republicans-consider-he...

A reminder Israel has both universal healthcare and tuition free university...and voted yesterday to give $255 million to ultra-Orthodox programs and institutions, including yeshivas...that actually refuse to engage in military conscription...

https://www.timesofisrael.com/opposition-mks-voted-to-alloca...


> Is it ok now to call the US electorate suckers?

I don't think you have to wait for 2026 on that one.


> Israel has both universal healthcare and tuition free university

This is both wrong and off topic.

Israel health care is funded by a 5% additional income tax tier. non working people pay a significant fixed annual fee.

University is not free. $5K for the public institutions - which have limited admissions. $10K for many of the spill over private institutions.

Now - about those space lasers ....


5k is almost free. And yes you pay tax to find universities. Makes sense. Paying full tuition in the USA is like paying a tax, only worse, it's a lot more.

As disgusted as I am with Israel's action over the last 80 years, put the blame where it belong.

5k is far from nothing, it is more than enough in any country than subsidize higher education.

Which is most of the world at this point.


I mean have you seen what US colleges cost?

The US is very much an outlier.

This give a very different picture:

https://www.studyineurope.eu/tuition-fees/


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There would be no public education nor healthcare in Israel without US money.

Israel has had public education and public healthcare forever, even going back when US had no colored and jews signs in their public spaces.

> Israel has had public education and public healthcare forever…

This also applies to US aid.


Nope, Israel had it much earlier.

Israel, the nation state, came into being in 1948, with the explicit financial and military aid of the United States to do so. It has had American support since within hours of its founding.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Israel#State_of_...

"At the end of 1948, 53% of Israel's Jewish population was insured, about 80% of them by Clalit, with a few small health funds insuring the remainder. In the following years, Israel's healthcare system was expanded, and within a decade, about 90% were insured."

Universal healthcare became a thing in 1995, it seems.


To be fair here, what people often overlook by using Israel's current government as a reference point is that during the Kibbutz era Israel was decidedly left-wing. So I wouldn't necessarily attribute the presence of 90% or later 100% health care to US money.

>So I wouldn't necessarily attribute the presence of 90% or later 100% health care to US money.

This is very strange, given that there would be no state of Israel without US money.


Why would you even bother to post this obviously false claim? Might as well claim that the earth is flat.

Ah yes...the criticizing Israel is antisemitic argument...

"I stand behind the Israeli soldiers; whether there are children or women, it doesn't matter to me if there is damage. There are no innocent civilians in Jenin" - https://www.instagram.com/reel/DWWUmuFDgqP/


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You're doing it again, conflating antisemitism and criticism of Israel, I flagged your comments.

Boiling legitimate criticism of the USA funding of Israel to “of course the Jews stole it” is intellectually dishonest.

It would have been a valid criticism if it mentioned US aid to Ukraine (which is far larger), or aid to Egypt or the aid by maintaining military bases in South Korea, Japan, Europe. But nothing of that was mentioned, only the Jewish state. Hence it is a good ol' antisemitism.

"Dutch police also use controversial AI intelligence software by American Palantir" - https://nltimes.nl/2025/08/22/dutch-police-also-use-controve...

"Palantir is well on its way to conquering Europe" - https://www.euractiv.com/news/palantir-is-well-on-its-way-to...


"Palantir’s Architecture: Analyzing the Ethics of Surveillance AI" - https://erikabarker.ai/data-analysis/the-palantir-paradox-de...

"All the Ways Palantir is Assisting Trump’s Abusive Removal Campaign" - https://www.aclu.org/news/privacy-technology/palantir-deport...

"‘ELITE’: The Palantir App ICE Uses to Find Neighborhoods to Raid" - https://www.404media.co/elite-the-palantir-app-ice-uses-to-f...

"The seer and the seen: Surveying Palantir’s surveillance platform" - https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/01972243.2022.2...

"ICE Using Palantir Tool That Feeds On Medicaid Data" - https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/01/report-ice-using-palan...

"How one company – Palantir – is mapping the nation’s data" - https://theconversation.com/when-the-government-can-see-ever...

"AI got the blame for the Iran school bombing. The truth is far more worrying" - https://www.theguardian.com/news/2026/mar/26/ai-got-the-blam...



What us this AWS you talk about? :-)

my employer's choice of premium hosting provider

I know what AWS is...that is why your statement

>> AWS has a similar RAM consumption.

Makes no sense to me...


Ah, now I understand your question (and see others already answered). Yeah, I realized that possible confusion after writing it, but hoped it was clear enough after editing in the bit about this AWS problem being in a browser tab. You may have seen the initial version, or it may still have been too confusing. Whoops

I think they are talking about AWS dashboard, but I might be wrong.

the web interface

The official name is the AWS management console. Or just the console.

The ‘dashboard’, the ‘interface’? Reminds me of coworkers who used to refer to desktop PC cases as the hard drive, or people who refer to the web as ‘Google’.


Wow this makes me nostalgic for 2000s era pointless web rage. It’s better material; keep up the good fight.

I always saw LinkedIn, as nothing more than the best dating site in the world. My results so far have been stellar.

Wait, are you dating on LinkedIn?

Do you understand the concept of side channel attacks? :-)

"Despite the apparent simplicity of the challenge, Gemini was the only LLM that was able to create a web site that rendered well on mobile. Grok came in second with a mobile rendering that featured odd spacing and horizontal lines placed seemingly randomly but at least kept the text legible. Both ChatGPT and Claude’s styling resulted in mobile rendering that can only be described as broken with multiple instances of overlapping text."

How is the AGI doing Jensen Huang?



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